<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The Future Of Gnome DE Looks Promising</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/</link>
	<description>Geek Technica</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:42:44 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Wise Drivers - #1 Converting Driver Product. &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
		<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/comment-page-2/#comment-1953</link>
		<dc:creator>Wise Drivers - #1 Converting Driver Product. &#124; 7Wins.eu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geektechnica.com/?p=267#comment-1953</guid>
		<description>[...] Install Windows 7 on Asus KV8 SE Deluxe Motherboard with Promise 378 &#171; DrivertoolsSotomayor Racist Comments? &#124; Mind Your Own Damn Business PoliticsPortable Ad-Aware SE Pro Build 1.06r1 Direct2Dell - Direct2Dell - DELL COMMUNITY FREE Upgrade to Windows 7 for Vista users? &#124; The Tech News BlogSiteMap &#124; Free Download RapidshareToolmonger &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Give Bosch An Earful About The 10.8V LineDavid Reed Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Installing Windows XP on the Dell Inspiron 1420Hannu&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OSS is dead. Long live OSS!The Future Of Gnome DE Looks Promising &#124; Geek Technica [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Install Windows 7 on Asus KV8 SE Deluxe Motherboard with Promise 378 &laquo; DrivertoolsSotomayor Racist Comments? | Mind Your Own Damn Business PoliticsPortable Ad-Aware SE Pro Build 1.06r1 Direct2Dell &#8211; Direct2Dell &#8211; DELL COMMUNITY FREE Upgrade to Windows 7 for Vista users? | The Tech News BlogSiteMap | Free Download RapidshareToolmonger &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; Give Bosch An Earful About The 10.8V LineDavid Reed Online &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; Installing Windows XP on the Dell Inspiron 1420Hannu&#8217;s Blog &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; OSS is dead. Long live OSS!The Future Of Gnome DE Looks Promising | Geek Technica [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Peter Guirguis</title>
		<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/comment-page-2/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Guirguis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geektechnica.com/?p=267#comment-1043</guid>
		<description>Kde 4.0 was A BIG MISTAKE

those talking about it as a not typical standard let me tell u something, My first ever linux experience was with kde 4.0
it was fedora 9 and I was confused what image to download.The fedora site stated that kde was for windows migrants and it was kde 4.0.
I just fired it up, two minutes trying to find my way out and it was really shit.

thanks god i didn&#039;t and tried gnome and fall in love with linux.
sry for my bad english and the long post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kde 4.0 was A BIG MISTAKE</p>
<p>those talking about it as a not typical standard let me tell u something, My first ever linux experience was with kde 4.0<br />
it was fedora 9 and I was confused what image to download.The fedora site stated that kde was for windows migrants and it was kde 4.0.<br />
I just fired it up, two minutes trying to find my way out and it was really shit.</p>
<p>thanks god i didn&#8217;t and tried gnome and fall in love with linux.<br />
sry for my bad english and the long post</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kaddy</title>
		<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/comment-page-2/#comment-633</link>
		<dc:creator>kaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geektechnica.com/?p=267#comment-633</guid>
		<description>i reckon gnome 3 so far looks like shit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i reckon gnome 3 so far looks like shit</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tomthump</title>
		<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/comment-page-2/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>tomthump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geektechnica.com/?p=267#comment-619</guid>
		<description>Well ,I thought Kde-4.3 is very stable and should be employed in next mars expedition by NASA for the astronauts =) .Although I disagree with the article with a taste of bashing kde.kde is serving another set of GNU/Linux users who prefers more customization and more eyecandy(as of now).while We,Gnome users are always satisfied with the simplistic approach.No Jihad with Kde and Qt.Let all Co-exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well ,I thought Kde-4.3 is very stable and should be employed in next mars expedition by NASA for the astronauts =) .Although I disagree with the article with a taste of bashing kde.kde is serving another set of GNU/Linux users who prefers more customization and more eyecandy(as of now).while We,Gnome users are always satisfied with the simplistic approach.No Jihad with Kde and Qt.Let all Co-exist.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Deamon</title>
		<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/comment-page-2/#comment-566</link>
		<dc:creator>Deamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geektechnica.com/?p=267#comment-566</guid>
		<description>Scott don&#039;t get too caught up in hyperbole. Current KDE is not &#039;rock solid&#039; (particularly 4.3 in development -  not by a longshot). Not only that but the &quot;complete rewrite&quot; has a lot of pre-4.0 code in it today, going back to KDE1. You can even just grep the code now and see all the Qt3 compatibility classes in the code that were just straight ported without refactoring. Aside from that though nobody is arguing it wasn&#039;t a big change codewise; I assure you we do understand what a task it was. That by itself doesn&#039;t excuse the end result.

The 4.0 talk now is to attempt to ensure either GNOME or KDE learn from KDE 4.0 mistakes.

Yes, mistakes.

Releasing 4.0 as a final release when it clearly didn&#039;t live up to a final release standard quality, and otherwise wasn&#039;t meant as a typical standard release but a &#039;developer release&#039; or some such, I think, reasonably warrants criticism simply going by industry software production standards. But of course 4.0 wasn&#039;t a &quot;finishing line&quot;. It maybe have been a starting point, but it sure wasn&#039;t a starting point for end users. KDE developers want to create their own nonstandard nomenclature for software releases? Fine. Then pay the price for it.

I and others have no problem &quot;moving on&quot; from 4.0 but when confronted by people who believe there wasn&#039;t a problem with 4.0 (as a release as it was) likely haven&#039;t learned from the problem and may even end up repeating it. So we will continue to push back against bad history and those who continue to apologize for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott don&#8217;t get too caught up in hyperbole. Current KDE is not &#8216;rock solid&#8217; (particularly 4.3 in development &#8211;  not by a longshot). Not only that but the &#8220;complete rewrite&#8221; has a lot of pre-4.0 code in it today, going back to KDE1. You can even just grep the code now and see all the Qt3 compatibility classes in the code that were just straight ported without refactoring. Aside from that though nobody is arguing it wasn&#8217;t a big change codewise; I assure you we do understand what a task it was. That by itself doesn&#8217;t excuse the end result.</p>
<p>The 4.0 talk now is to attempt to ensure either GNOME or KDE learn from KDE 4.0 mistakes.</p>
<p>Yes, mistakes.</p>
<p>Releasing 4.0 as a final release when it clearly didn&#8217;t live up to a final release standard quality, and otherwise wasn&#8217;t meant as a typical standard release but a &#8216;developer release&#8217; or some such, I think, reasonably warrants criticism simply going by industry software production standards. But of course 4.0 wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;finishing line&#8221;. It maybe have been a starting point, but it sure wasn&#8217;t a starting point for end users. KDE developers want to create their own nonstandard nomenclature for software releases? Fine. Then pay the price for it.</p>
<p>I and others have no problem &#8220;moving on&#8221; from 4.0 but when confronted by people who believe there wasn&#8217;t a problem with 4.0 (as a release as it was) likely haven&#8217;t learned from the problem and may even end up repeating it. So we will continue to push back against bad history and those who continue to apologize for it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/comment-page-2/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 03:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geektechnica.com/?p=267#comment-564</guid>
		<description>KDE4.0 was over a year ago. Complaining about a release in the past right now is sort of.... strange. Let&#039;s gripe about XP sp1 while we&#039;re at it! Grr!

The current KDE4.2.x and upcoming 4.3 are rock solid.

KDE4 was a COMPLETE RE-WRITE of all kde code. It took over two years. You do not understand what a task this was. KDE4 apps are no longer dependent on X, and can run natively in any OS. Completely portable.

KDE4.0 was the starting point, as the developers said. Not the finish line.

Please read about KDE4 on wikipedia for more information...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KDE4.0 was over a year ago. Complaining about a release in the past right now is sort of&#8230;. strange. Let&#8217;s gripe about XP sp1 while we&#8217;re at it! Grr!</p>
<p>The current KDE4.2.x and upcoming 4.3 are rock solid.</p>
<p>KDE4 was a COMPLETE RE-WRITE of all kde code. It took over two years. You do not understand what a task this was. KDE4 apps are no longer dependent on X, and can run natively in any OS. Completely portable.</p>
<p>KDE4.0 was the starting point, as the developers said. Not the finish line.</p>
<p>Please read about KDE4 on wikipedia for more information&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: aikiwolfie</title>
		<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/comment-page-2/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator>aikiwolfie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 14:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geektechnica.com/?p=267#comment-562</guid>
		<description>Interesting concept. Looks very much like the Clutter UI seen in Moblin 2. It certainly looks light yeas a head of where Gnome currently is. But reminiscent of the way many users organise their desktops anyway be it Linux or Windows.

A lot of users seem to prefer the side bar effect to the top or bottom menu panels. It saves them vertical space which cuts down on vertical scrolling in web pages. Particularly on devices with smaller screens.

I might just set up a virtual machine and try this out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting concept. Looks very much like the Clutter UI seen in Moblin 2. It certainly looks light yeas a head of where Gnome currently is. But reminiscent of the way many users organise their desktops anyway be it Linux or Windows.</p>
<p>A lot of users seem to prefer the side bar effect to the top or bottom menu panels. It saves them vertical space which cuts down on vertical scrolling in web pages. Particularly on devices with smaller screens.</p>
<p>I might just set up a virtual machine and try this out.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rich on Linux and FOSS! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; : Geek Technica The Future Of Gnome DE Looks Promising</title>
		<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/comment-page-2/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich on Linux and FOSS! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; : Geek Technica The Future Of Gnome DE Looks Promising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 17:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geektechnica.com/?p=267#comment-559</guid>
		<description>[...] Full post and pics here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Full post and pics here. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/comment-page-2/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 23:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geektechnica.com/?p=267#comment-556</guid>
		<description>I have used KDE for a very long time and really liked it.  What I did not like from KDE is all the hype they did about how great KDE 4 would be and then all of a sudden when it is released they say it is not for every day use.  I agree they should have gone down the beta state and not released it before it was ready.  I do like some things like folder view but like others it is still buggy but getting better.  I never really liked Gnome more because of the menu structure but like these screen shots and might try it out when version 3 is released.  I think that they will do things differently after they have seen the backlash that KDE got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used KDE for a very long time and really liked it.  What I did not like from KDE is all the hype they did about how great KDE 4 would be and then all of a sudden when it is released they say it is not for every day use.  I agree they should have gone down the beta state and not released it before it was ready.  I do like some things like folder view but like others it is still buggy but getting better.  I never really liked Gnome more because of the menu structure but like these screen shots and might try it out when version 3 is released.  I think that they will do things differently after they have seen the backlash that KDE got.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Deamon</title>
		<link>http://www.geektechnica.com/2009/05/the-future-of-gnome-de-looks-promising/comment-page-2/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>Deamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geektechnica.com/?p=267#comment-553</guid>
		<description>You&#039;re right Kerberos, after many long years of hard work, Novell finally completed its mission of meticulously &#039;copying&#039; the wobbly window effect from Microsoft after surreptitiously studying Microsoft&#039;s WinHEC floor demos from years before. It was only partly a success, however, as it soon proved too difficult to copy the &#039;randomly rotating window&#039; effect, the second most coveted feature in the industry at the time.

The best part of your silly post is this &quot;at least Microsoft actually designed the system themselves&quot;, going back to Windows 1.0 Microsoft stole designs from Apple who stole from Xerox. Multiple people present wrote their accounts of a famous Apple-Microsoft meeting involving Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, Jobs confronting Gate about stealing from Apple, and Gates responding along the lines:

&quot;Well, Steve, I think there&#039;s more than one way of looking at it. I think it&#039;s more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.&quot;

And no, Microsoft hasn&#039;t changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Kerberos, after many long years of hard work, Novell finally completed its mission of meticulously &#8216;copying&#8217; the wobbly window effect from Microsoft after surreptitiously studying Microsoft&#8217;s WinHEC floor demos from years before. It was only partly a success, however, as it soon proved too difficult to copy the &#8216;randomly rotating window&#8217; effect, the second most coveted feature in the industry at the time.</p>
<p>The best part of your silly post is this &#8220;at least Microsoft actually designed the system themselves&#8221;, going back to Windows 1.0 Microsoft stole designs from Apple who stole from Xerox. Multiple people present wrote their accounts of a famous Apple-Microsoft meeting involving Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, Jobs confronting Gate about stealing from Apple, and Gates responding along the lines:</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, Steve, I think there&#8217;s more than one way of looking at it. I think it&#8217;s more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.&#8221;</p>
<p>And no, Microsoft hasn&#8217;t changed.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
